Intimacy

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Question: “I’m a 30 year old LDS mother of three (4,3,1)and have been married to my husband(35 year-old) for 10 years. From when we got married and we started being intimate I got the feeling that my sex drive was a lot higher than my husband’s. I wanted to be intimate with him all the time and he didn’t seem as interested as me. I’m always the one asking my husband to be with me and sometimes I’m in luck but the other times I end up feeling rejected and feeling bad about myself. I’ve tried not to focus on that too much so I’ve been more focused on my kids, work and home. We have gone as long as 10 months without intimacy just because I didn’t say anything. He also very rarely kisses me on the lips. He thinks he only needs to kiss me when we actually get intimate, but sometimes all I want is a kiss and nothing else. I’m silently desperate for intimacy and romance from my husband. Is there something wrong with me or him. I’ve tried talking to him about it and he changes the conversation and says I’m being silly. Help!!”

Answer: I appreciate your writing in. It is normal for couples when they first marry to be semi-unaware of the physical and emotional needs connected to sexual intimacy. Many couples marry and engage in a disproportionate amount of sexual intimacy due to the newness and excitement found in sexual connection. In time, most couples have a slow down, or period in which things become stable and consistent pattern of frequency come into play for how they connect sexually.

From your post it sounds like you are more sexually cued up that he is. I mean that your sexual energy and libido as it is called, is larger than his. This is not abnormal as I have worked with scores and scores of couples and no two partners typically have the exact same sexual frequency. In the literature they call it high-desire or low-desire. Again, neither is bad nor good as it is not a moral issue but it just is. The catch for couples, is that they learn to get into a pattern of what works for both partners and leaves the couple feeling enriched and bonded following the sexual connecting. It sounds as if you are approaching him for connection and he is less interested, which I’d frame as lower-desire. You may be interpreting it as less interested as in he is not ‘into’ you. I’d caution you on that. It may be that he is, but more than likely his sexual frequency is lower and thus his needs are different. Have you spoken to him about your feeling rejected or hurt when you’ve felt he is not interested in you sexually? I’d highly suggest speaking about it, or writing him a letter about it and then following it up with a conversation. He can’t understand you if you want him to simply figure out what you want by guessing. Most couples on average have sexual interaction at least weekly. According to research, couples that have sex 3x per week or more are considered high-desire and couples that are 1x every other week are low desire. Marriages with sex less than 1x in three months, are considered non-sexual marriages.

Intimacy is something that runs far deeper than sexual intercourse. Intimacy is clearly about union, closeness, and passion in the heat of a relationship. I feel your husband needs to re-evaluate his desires or lack thereof for intimacy and I don’t mean sex either. I am talking about his connection to you. For you, I’d recommend speaking to him about your needs and hopes from your heart. You mentioned talking to him about it and him responding you’re silly. I’d instead look deeper at how you are presenting yourself. You will teach him how to treat you by what you tolerate and put up with. I’d suggest approaching him in a different way in a way that will help him hear your heart not merely the words that he can avoid and minimize as silly. Also, affection and closeness with hugs, touch, and small kisses are part of a healthy marriage not just precursors and foreplay before sexual connection.

Clearly your talking about it together will provide the solutions for frequency and preferences. Good luck in your journey.

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Question: “My husband and I have been married for 7 years. While we were dating he told me he had an addiction to pornography since someone showed him a magazine when he was 8. He cried when he told me and assured me it was something he was working on and would not let continue. Over the first few years of our marriage I would either find something on the computer or he would feel guilty and confess on his own to me when he had “slipped up”. He could go months without viewing it and then go back. I got to the point where I was sick of asking him how he was doing on it since I was always scared to hear a negative answer and I found he would just lie until he was ready to confess anyways. Other than this issue, he is a perfect husband. He helps me around the house, is a hard worker, a wonderful father and my best friend. He has been to different bishops about it (since we move so often) but has never had temple worthiness revoked. In fact, a couple years ago he was made a high-priest. It has been a couple years since we have dealt with this issue so I thought maybe he was doing better but this morning I sound several porn links on his pocket pc (and he knows I check the history periodically). It also appears as it instead of just looking at pictures like he used to, there were links for video clips. I’m freaking out! It’s getting worse? I always kinds thought how guilty he felt about his little slip ups would prevent him from taking it any further. I realize he probably needs outside help, as do I since this is not really doing wonders for my self-esteem. What else can I do to help him? I don’t want to make him feel so guilty or bad that he feels hopeless about quitting but I want to help him stop. I wouldn’t ever want to consider divorce over something like this but I find myself thinking about the possibility of him leaving me or me having to leave him if it ever got too bad. Please help give me any tips for myself or him.”

Answer: I am glad you are reaching out for support. I can imagine you are pretty hurt and upset with his porn use that has lingered for years and appears to be getting worse. Stopping pornography can be harder than some substance addictions, like oxycontin or heroin. I have worked personally with scores of men that are addicted. These are successful, seemingly happy, but addicted men. They often live two lives and find themselves hiding and using their secret addiction to soothe and meet emotional and or sexual needs.

Yes, he does need clinical help. He will not kick it on his own and even if he did have the capacity to do it (he would of years ago if this was the case) he does not have an objective clear view that would help him assess his needs, his insecurities, and his doubts. He may not feel an impetus to change as he does not have a lot of pressure from you or so it appears from your post. He also may not hit rock bottom and feel like it is a significant issue unless he feels and comes to know that it hurts you, and it hurts you badly. It can and will destroy your marriage. I have worked with many couples that are battling it, don’t mistake, it is addictive and will lead him to objectify you and fantasize about other women; he needs help.

I recommend that you get some counseling help. I also recommend you read my other posts on the subject of pornography. http://www.ldsphonecounseling.com/blog/?cat=31

Listen to a good audio clip about how porn impacts the minds of men, 5 min. clip here: http://www.ldsphonecounseling.com/audio/jason-evert.mp3

I have provided a list of links of articles that I feel can help you heal.
Is Pornography That Harmful? (Recommended)
Breaking the Chains of Pornography – LDS Ensign
Leaving Pornography Behind – LDS Ensign (Recommended)

Get a longer list of articles from the LDS Church.

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Question: “Hi. My husband and I have had struggles with intimacy. He wants more frequently and different options, and I have been struggling with getting used to it and feeling like the situation more. We’ve been married for two years, and still have complications in this area. What can I do to help myself feel more comfortable with my husband?”

Answer: I know dealing with intimacy in a marriage can be difficult. I have worked with many couples that are troubled with their ability to connect intimately. Intimacy does  not necessarily mean sex but it does mean bonding, closeness, passion, and connection. A few questions for you to consider. Have you discussed your sexual struggles with your husband? Often tension and fear permeates these situations and couples struggle in silence fearing to discuss the issues openly as they are often afraid they might injure or hurt their spouse. Talking openly and freely about your thoughts, feelings, and perceptions is key to building a strong relationship. If you want to work through the issues talking about them is key. I’d suggest talking to your husband about the nature of his wants/needs with regard to frequency and ‘options’ as you called them. Have you discussed it? How did it go? I am not entirely sure here what you are referencing but my suggestion is that you do some reading and get educated on intimacy and sexuality in the context of a healthy sexual LDS marriage relationship. After reading the article I authored below and the texts you will have a basis and grasp of how to work with your husband. For more immediate help, you can schedule a time to have a phone consultation with me as well.

I suggest you read my online article on this subject, LDS Couples and Sexual Intimacy as well as a previous post for newlyweds on this issue.

I also suggest you read these two books as well. Go buy a copy and start reading, you’ll be glad to did.
1) And They Were Not Ashamed: Strengthening Marriage through Sexual Fulfillment
2) Purity and Passion, Wendy Watson Nelson, Ph.D.

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newlywedsQuestion: “Am I glad I found you!  There is a gray area that I need some guidance in, and that gray area has to do with being married and being able to “spice things up” in the bedroom.  My wife and I have been married one year, and prior to our marriage, we were pretty obedient lds kids; especially when it came to sex.  Obedient, meaning, we followed counsel to stay away from pornography and not read about the details of all that sex can entail.  Then, when we got married, we got counsel from our bishop in relation to sex (which I believe is the right counsel), he said, “After you are married, when it comes to sex, what you two decide to do (given you both consent) is up to you.”  So now we go from not knowing much about sex, but getting a pretty good idea from all sorts of media outlets growing up about the possibilities, to now being married and suddenly having the “green light” to do whatever we both “consent to”.  But I am aware of Satan and his power and I don’t want to test him, but we do want to know if there is a source (book or something) that will be healthy as to helping us to learn and explore each other’s bodies in a way that is pleasing and uplifting.  I know there are different touches and techniques one can learn that we would like to apply, but we need instruction, and me personally, I would like to see pictures on how to do such.  I write because learning about these things is not something I want to do through “trial and error”, cause I feel the error would provide great destruction to my soul.  I’ll tell you what we have done so far.  We took a trip into a store called the “fun zone”.  Not a good feeling when we stopped in there and we haven’t gone back, no shall we.  Then, the other night, at a more “wholesome” store, there was a book titled, “The Joy of Sex.”  This book does provide instruction with pictures of an actual couple demonstrating things to try.  We haven’t given this book much attention because we are stuck between, is it pornography and “bad”, or is it alright because we are married and it’s up to us?  Any help on solving this dilemma; would this book be appropriate or not?  And if not, do you have any suggestions to help our desires?  Any time you could put toward helping us would be of tremendous value………Thanks for your time………”

Answer: I appreciate the question, as well as your candid inquiry regarding an issue that often can be a hurdle that many newlywed couples encounter. Many marry with hope that they’ll ‘figure out’ sexual intimacy or that it will happen to them magically. Due to the sacred nature of sexual relationships in marriage, it is not discussed prior to marriage and at times can even take on a taboo feel and leave LDS members confused, unfulfilled, and rigid about their own sexuality and sexual connection with their spouse.

You mentioned wanting recommendations on books that I’d recommend that help you “learn and explore each others bodies.” as you stated in your posted question above. Reading is informative but coming to know and understand what feels good for you and for your wife can only be known by your time with her. Also, healthy sexual connection needs to be coupled with service, affection, and consensual agreement in terms of what and how you are connecting sexually. I’d suggest you read the resources below with your spouse and take it a day at a time. There is no magic to it as sexual intimacy and arousal is most often dictated by the brain, not the genitals of either gender. Union, bonding, passion, and sexual fulfillment comes when you are enjoying and experiencing each other. When sexual intimacy becomes about one spouses needs exclusively, becomes demeaning, controlling, or about subservience you will be on a path that will destroy the tender fibers of intimacy that you are creating that could ultimately be strong bonds that shore and protect your marriage.

The books you mentioned are sources for information, but upon my review of the texts I deem unhelpful and clinically pathological in parts. The later book you mentioned advocates pornography, bondage, and domination as healthy ways of sexually connecting. Case studies and research indicates that such behaviors lead to sexual deviancy and sexual addictions. I don’t typically advocate for ‘how-to’ sex books that are photo laden, as they focus on a special ‘act’ or ‘position’ which misses the mark and does not ultimatly foster rich passionate sexual fulfillment. The fact is you will need to learn about your wife’s body and how to enjoy and please her sexually. You will not be able to do this by looking at photos of other women/men in sexual encounters or positions. In fact, this might lead to shame and unhealthy expectations about your body, your wife’s body, or either of your sexual performance.  I’d suggest not focusing so much on the ‘act’ and position or photos and toss that book and instead move to the resources I provided below. These will give you a foundation as well as legitimate information about the biology of sexual arousal and functioning and within a framework that will be supportive of your spiritual and religious beliefs. I applaud your wanting to understand and connect with your wife.

I suggest you first read my online article about couples and sexual intimacy. Then read the books I recommend below.

And They Were Not Ashamed: Strengthening Marriage through Sexual Fulfillment

The Act of Marriage

Between Husband & Wife: Gospel Perspectives on Marital Intimacy

Enjoy the journey!

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